Friday, May 4, 2012

Romney and Gays -- Frank Schaeffer on MSNBC


11 comments:

Liutgard said...

That was very good- clear, concise, to the point. Thank you, Frank.

Frank Schaeffer said...

Hi Liutgard, thanks for the kind note. Best, Frank

sdub said...

Really solid representation. You get better and better. Thanks for doing this.

Victor de said...

Thank you Mr. Schaeffer. If Americans would just vote on behalf of their economic interests instead of allowing themselves to be manipulated into prioritizing ideological differences. Semantics served up so well that not only do too many of us vote against our own economic interest but apparently can be fooled to even vote against their own health and well being. 40 million uninsured Americans will have access to affordable medical insurance in 2014. Yet, Still too many off us believe exactly what the insurance companies want us to believe. Awww, here I go ranting again. Therapeutic I suppose. Just like when I caught this interview. Thank you dear sir. You have a reader for life.

C Woods said...

You are so right about the GOP. For a bunch of people that say God wanted them to run for office or that God is on their side, and want everyone to be a Christian, they sure are full of hate. They hate gays, women, blacks, immigrants, liberals, Muslims and although they claim to be friends with Israel, most of them hate Jews, too. And despite Romney's apparent candidacy, many of them hate Mormons ---because they aren't "real" Christians. If the Catholic bishops weren't supporting some of their causes, they'd hate Catholics, too. And don't get me started on how they think non-believers aren't "real" citizens. They want less government, except when it comes to restricting the rights of these groups. I think Ronald Reagan would roll over in his grave if he knew what was happening to the GOP. Oops! I'm ranting, too.

Fr. John Whiteford said...

It is disingenuous to argue that this marks some shift to the right. 30 years ago no republican or democrat would have had an openly gay staffer on their campaign. The Republicans have not changed, the Democrats have... though they are trying hard to pretend not to be as far left as they are given that black voters are the staunchest opponents of gay activism in America today... thus Obama's "evolving" views on the matter.

mlf said...

Mormons and many white people are 'stunch opponents' too. Recent polls and news reports show that black people are changing on this issue just like the country in general is. I don't think black people have had the luxury of being one-issue voters. They have to accept a lot of guff from the people they support because they know that the other side is much worse.

Isonprize said...

Tired, tired, TIRED of the thinking that black people are the staunchest opponents to same-sex marriage. It simply is not true.

There aren't enough blacks to make or break votes on this issues. Black people don't get these issues on ballots. Black folks are not a monolithic thought group of people.

It's tiresome. REALLY tiresome.

This is not about black people. It's about EQUAL RIGHTS for ALL AMERICANS.

Fr. John Whiteford said...

Liberal white folks might like to think that Black people are changing their views on gay marriage, but in every state where there has been a vote, the black vote has come out close to 9 to 1 against. Those are the facts... and those of us who actually know black people are not surprised. In my secular job I work with mostly black females, and on social issues, we have been on the same page for the past 20 years I have worked with them. When I first started working in social service, I was with a training group that consisted of myself, two white females, one hispanic male, and about eight black women. One day we got on the issue of abortion over lunch, and it was me and the 8 black ladies vs. the two white ladies, with the other two men remaining as observers. I think the day will come in the not too distant future when you will see a new black political alignment... especially if the democrats continue to move further to the left on social issues.

Fool4Christ said...

Frank is just plain crazy for ... Frank.

MATTHEW V THOMPSON said...

Frank...void and darkness? Are your selling derivatives off of the backs of martyrs? Is there not only one reality...the Body of Christ? Isn't everything else a derivative? Be careful what you invest in, and the derivatives you sell off your investments, because before you know it, you might get sold short in market capitulation. May the lord have mercy on us all.